Hey all
This is essential listening:
short version:
long version:
JFK's Speech on Secret Societies
that is a great^ speech.
in a related note: Ron Paul is now calling to break up the CIA.
Ron Paul: End the CIA!
http://rt.com/usa/176208-ron-paul-cia-torture/#.U9e_2xE9CNQ.twitter
Former congressman Ron Paul advocates for abolishing the United States Central Intelligence Agency in a new op-ed where he condemns the CIA and its controversial enhanced interrogation practices.
On Sunday, the retired Texas lawmaker wrote on the website for the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity that “CIA covert actions across the globe have led to destruction of countries and societies and unprecedented resentment toward the United States.”
“For our own safety, end the CIA!” urged Paul, who served nearly three decades in Congress and thrice ran unsuccessfully for president before retiring early last year.
Even though the US government has largely curbed the CIA’s sordid use of torture tactics, Paul writes that a recent decision from across the pond should serve as a reminder that the agency should once and for all be laid to rest.
“Last week the European Court of Human Rights found that the US government transferred individuals to secret detention centers in Poland (and likely elsewhere) where they were tortured away from public scrutiny. The government of Poland was ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages to two victims for doing nothing to stop their torture on Polish soil,” Paul wrote.
According to Paul, the court’s decision marks the first time ever that any European body like it has connected an EU nation to US torture practices. Regardless, he writes, the “Obama administration refuses to admit that such facilities existed and instead claims that any such ‘enhanced interrogation’ programs were shut down by 2009.”
“We can only hope this is true, but we should be wary of government promises. After all, they promised us all along that they were not using torture, and we might have never known had photographs and other information not been leaked to the press,” Paul added.
Transparency is again an issue, he adds, as Americans continue to wait for the eventual release of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on the CIA’s torture program, the likes of which has been stalled for years and momentarily sparked a Department of Justice investigation into alleged wrongdoing on behalf of both the legislative and executive branches.
“Meanwhile, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior current and former CIA officials are said to be frantically attempting to prepare a response to a planned release of an unclassified version of a 6,500 page Senate Intelligence Committee study on the torture practices of that agency. The CIA was already caught tapping into the computers of Senate investigators last year, looking to see what information might be contained in the report. Those who have seen the report have commented that it details far more brutal CIA practices that have been revealed to this point,” insists Paul, giving him all the more reason to call for the abolishing of one of the American government’s most secret agencies.
Of course, the CIA isn’t the only US entity that has earned the ire of the former congressman. On top of years of campaigning to end the Federal Reserve, Paul has previously called for ending the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Transportation Security Administration.
It didn't work out too well for JFK... he should prob watch his back.
Ron Paul: End the CIA!
http://rt.com/usa/176208-ron-paul-cia-torture/#.U9e_2xE9CNQ.twitter
Former congressman Ron Paul advocates for abolishing the United States Central Intelligence Agency in a new op-ed where he condemns the CIA and its controversial enhanced interrogation practices.
On Sunday, the retired Texas lawmaker wrote on the website for the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity that “CIA covert actions across the globe have led to destruction of countries and societies and unprecedented resentment toward the United States.”
“For our own safety, end the CIA!” urged Paul, who served nearly three decades in Congress and thrice ran unsuccessfully for president before retiring early last year.
Even though the US government has largely curbed the CIA’s sordid use of torture tactics, Paul writes that a recent decision from across the pond should serve as a reminder that the agency should once and for all be laid to rest.
“Last week the European Court of Human Rights found that the US government transferred individuals to secret detention centers in Poland (and likely elsewhere) where they were tortured away from public scrutiny. The government of Poland was ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages to two victims for doing nothing to stop their torture on Polish soil,” Paul wrote.
According to Paul, the court’s decision marks the first time ever that any European body like it has connected an EU nation to US torture practices. Regardless, he writes, the “Obama administration refuses to admit that such facilities existed and instead claims that any such ‘enhanced interrogation’ programs were shut down by 2009.”
“We can only hope this is true, but we should be wary of government promises. After all, they promised us all along that they were not using torture, and we might have never known had photographs and other information not been leaked to the press,” Paul added.
Transparency is again an issue, he adds, as Americans continue to wait for the eventual release of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on the CIA’s torture program, the likes of which has been stalled for years and momentarily sparked a Department of Justice investigation into alleged wrongdoing on behalf of both the legislative and executive branches.
“Meanwhile, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior current and former CIA officials are said to be frantically attempting to prepare a response to a planned release of an unclassified version of a 6,500 page Senate Intelligence Committee study on the torture practices of that agency. The CIA was already caught tapping into the computers of Senate investigators last year, looking to see what information might be contained in the report. Those who have seen the report have commented that it details far more brutal CIA practices that have been revealed to this point,” insists Paul, giving him all the more reason to call for the abolishing of one of the American government’s most secret agencies.
Of course, the CIA isn’t the only US entity that has earned the ire of the former congressman. On top of years of campaigning to end the Federal Reserve, Paul has previously called for ending the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Transportation Security Administration.
It didn't work out too well for JFK... he should prob watch his back.
I love Ron Paul, but sadly, I don't see him really relevant anymore
You really think he can bring down the CIA?? No fuckin way man.
The mainstream media has been ignoring him for years. He will likely continue to say great truths but I don't see it having much affect. JFK was in a position of power, Ron Paul exists on the fringe outskirts of public consciousness
Hope I'm wrong
:(
You really think he can bring down the CIA?? No fuckin way man.
The mainstream media has been ignoring him for years. He will likely continue to say great truths but I don't see it having much affect. JFK was in a position of power, Ron Paul exists on the fringe outskirts of public consciousness
Hope I'm wrong
:(
Masato wrote:
You really think he can bring down the CIA?? No fuckin way man.
:(
nah, just like what he said & the fact he said it.
I'm not sure there was ever a good chance of JFK pulling it off either. him & RFK together were prob the last good chance though.
unfortunately.
CIA is damn near untouchable IMO.
lol @ those who think they aren't very powerful anymore.
^^ kind of file it w/his call to 'end the fed'.
no chance of it happening IMO, but it might wake a few people up.
no chance of it happening IMO, but it might wake a few people up.
Ron Paul had an excellent run, he did a LOT to change/open the public consciousness.
I really enjoyed his second try at the presidency, it was amazing to watch the media keep trying to ignore/silence him but he kept on coming and breaking down all kinds of walls. The grassroots passion behind his campaign was absolutely inspiring/beautiful.
I remember just a few years before, suggesting that the Federal Reserve wasn't 'Federal' and was actually a private bank would get you laughed out of anywhere. Was a 'ridiculous' claim tossed in with aliens and such. Suddenly Ron Paul was talking about it in the debates on live TV and everyone STFU. Now it's public knowledge.
I also LOVED how he had the balls to start calling the whole 'blowback' issue re; 911. Guliani just about shit his pants during that early debate, lol, and you could see the media scramble like headless chickens trying to figure out how to shut him down.
WAR PAUL
I really enjoyed his second try at the presidency, it was amazing to watch the media keep trying to ignore/silence him but he kept on coming and breaking down all kinds of walls. The grassroots passion behind his campaign was absolutely inspiring/beautiful.
I remember just a few years before, suggesting that the Federal Reserve wasn't 'Federal' and was actually a private bank would get you laughed out of anywhere. Was a 'ridiculous' claim tossed in with aliens and such. Suddenly Ron Paul was talking about it in the debates on live TV and everyone STFU. Now it's public knowledge.
I also LOVED how he had the balls to start calling the whole 'blowback' issue re; 911. Guliani just about shit his pants during that early debate, lol, and you could see the media scramble like headless chickens trying to figure out how to shut him down.
WAR PAUL
One of the greatest moments in the history of american television:
That blew the whole illusion to bits, started a revolution of public thought
Took 6 FUCKING YEARS to bring these ideas to the forefront (debate was from 2007)
That blew the whole illusion to bits, started a revolution of public thought
Took 6 FUCKING YEARS to bring these ideas to the forefront (debate was from 2007)
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