Masato wrote:Som-Pong wrote:I have more than just a passing interest in Crowley.
Well he is deserving of interest, that's for sure. I love to hear stories of Crowley, and try to understand whatever he was figuring out. Illuminat3d0ne is right that these sort of things don't necessarily = evil satanism. But in another perhaps more broader sense they kinda do imo lol
Question is how far to actually take Crowley's systems or Magick into one's own actual practise. I think there are a variety of prices to pay for it, better weigh the costs and benefits
I don't really disagree but even people that subscribe to "satanic" religions are not necessarily evil imo
You can definitely follow that left hand path down as low as it goes and at that point I do agree they fall into the Satanism that we are talking about but there are plenty of people who are satanic who don't do so for nefarious reasons, it's just what they believe in or have been indoctrinated by, just like somebody who is Christian and goes to church or read a book to be indoctrinated
I just find anyone associated with Crowley or that studies his religion are referred to as Satanists when I feel the basic principles of thelema are good (depending on perspective like any religion really), they are principles I've incorporated into my own life
I like the idea of do what thou wilt and love is the law, love under will
I think it's important to do what you have to do to make yourself happy, I think Crowley took this way too far as I believe in limits and that once you get to the point he did, you aren't really making yourself happy, you're moreso locked into a trance of pushing further
I think love is extremely important but if you are not happy, you must move on whether there is love there are not
At this point in time to do ritual Magik isn't even hard, you can go get animal blood from any Butcher shop around town, there is no need for sacaficial shit anymore, when you take steps further than required like actually performing a sacafice, or you are trying to reach demons for nefarious means, they absolutely fall into evil Satanism, I just don't think even most "satanic" people or people who are into the occult are evil, I would agree elites who subscribe to these things are doing so for nefarious means and do consider them evil
I find most people who are into this whole good vs evil stuff are from two partys, either they subscribe to an Abrahamic religion or are and evil satanic person and both of those parties are biased and consider themselves the good ones, from my point of view, they're both evil
With this in mind, should we be considering those who follow Abrahamic religions and have been indoctrinated by lies evil as well?
I definitely think there is something up with that house though