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Re: Zionism Thread

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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:08 am

This was found on Jordan Peterson's iPod :D



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Postby Luigi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:15 am

Megaterio Llamas wrote:This was found on Jordan Peterson's iPod :D




This sent me down a strange rabbit hole and I probably got myself on some more watchlists lol For those more reserved here are some nice sanitized articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Sturman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Goodman

Looks like they couldnt sanitize this guy though:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Seth+Be ... e&ie=UTF-8
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Postby Megaterio Llamas » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:41 am

Luigi wrote:
Megaterio Llamas wrote:This was found on Jordan Peterson's iPod :D




This sent me down a strange rabbit hole and I probably got myself on some more watchlists lol For those more reserved here are some nice sanitized articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Sturman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Goodman

Looks like they couldnt sanitize this guy though:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Seth+Be ... e&ie=UTF-8


I can't tell if you're familiar with the work of the man in the video i posted.

If not, this is his. Welcome to the watchlist ;)

https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.w ... pirit2.pdf

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Postby Luigi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:34 am

Megaterio Llamas wrote:
Luigi wrote:
Megaterio Llamas wrote:This was found on Jordan Peterson's iPod :D




This sent me down a strange rabbit hole and I probably got myself on some more watchlists lol For those more reserved here are some nice sanitized articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Sturman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Goodman

Looks like they couldnt sanitize this guy though:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Seth+Be ... e&ie=UTF-8


I can't tell if you're familiar with the work of the man in the video i posted.

If not, this is his. Welcome to the watchlist ;)

https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.w ... pirit2.pdf

Thanks! I hadnt previously but I have watched him discuss his book in youtube videos so its nice to get it for free. Another for my epic collection of PDFs I shouldnt have for one reason or another :mrgreen:
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Postby Masato » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:26 pm

sparkuri wrote:I've spent the last 10 days in Israel(some in Jordan).
I've spoke to many regarding the state; it's pretty clear Jews/Judaism is like nothing else on earth, and currently & historically societies worldwide have reacted to that.
I don't believe there's a grand Zionist conspiracy to take over the world. Powers are at work, but in my view, Zionism is only a tool to others who align geopolitically; "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
There's a Hebrew contingency here that's as thick or thicker than any nation on earth.
I've driven through Megiddo, understand it's importance strategically/historically & in prophecy.
I'm in Jerusalem now, toured the underground under the temple mount today and visited the Western Wall, seeing thousands of years of civilization stacked on top of each other.
This is the oldest city in the world that's been continuously and actively occupied.
Only under current conditions & governing has excavation been undertaken to retrace history so meticulously.

There are some historically miraculous events that occurred prior to western support but after 1948's resolution that in my view make this truly a land of prophecy.
Only through worldwide mandates in the last several centuries by Sultans, Kings, and empires that outline scattering the Hebrews or tribes of Israel over eradicating them entirely, has antisemitism existed over the centuries.
I think they're haters frankly.

I've spent my entire life disseminating information on the topic, long before wikipedia.
I thought I'd put some boots on the ground for some more understanding & context.
Palestine may have been called Palestine, but the Philistines didn't establish that name, Arab tribalism eg Saud, Jordan, Persia, Babylonia did.
Phoenicians settled on this hill long before any of them, but names change when land is conquered.

Jews are creative enough to have established strength worldwide to reclaim the land, but that imo is all they want.
They'll just continue to exercise every breath in maintaining it, just as other countries do.


Strong post, thanks sparkuri amazing

Would absolutely love to hear more.

Its the last paragraph of your post is what I find most to be questioning; how far will they go to maintain it? how much power is necessary to wield to maintain it, how much of US policy/media etc has been hijacked to maintain it? If all they want is that land then OK go conquer it and be done with it. But if you have to manipulate so much of the rest of the world at great expense to maintain it then we have some concerns

I would be curious also how you are enjoying your trip, through the many lenses you've no doubt accumulated along your studies. What is the energy like there if I may ask such an esoteric question? Is it enjoyable from a vacation perspective? Or are you more enjoying on an intellectual/historical basis? Did you ever dip into Palestine/occupied territory? Or is that impossible/difficult for tourists?

Thanks again. Glad to see some people having the guts to chime in here, a very interesting topic imho rarely explored/discussed.

Even my man SRBrant and I are finding some common ground lol

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Postby sparkuri » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:29 pm

Masato wrote:
sparkuri wrote:I've spent the last 10 days in Israel(some in Jordan).
I've spoke to many regarding the state; it's pretty clear Jews/Judaism is like nothing else on earth, and currently & historically societies worldwide have reacted to that.
I don't believe there's a grand Zionist conspiracy to take over the world. Powers are at work, but in my view, Zionism is only a tool to others who align geopolitically; "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
There's a Hebrew contingency here that's as thick or thicker than any nation on earth.
I've driven through Megiddo, understand it's importance strategically/historically & in prophecy.
I'm in Jerusalem now, toured the underground under the temple mount today and visited the Western Wall, seeing thousands of years of civilization stacked on top of each other.
This is the oldest city in the world that's been continuously and actively occupied.
Only under current conditions & governing has excavation been undertaken to retrace history so meticulously.

There are some historically miraculous events that occurred prior to western support but after 1948's resolution that in my view make this truly a land of prophecy.
Only through worldwide mandates in the last several centuries by Sultans, Kings, and empires that outline scattering the Hebrews or tribes of Israel over eradicating them entirely, has antisemitism existed over the centuries.
I think they're haters frankly.

I've spent my entire life disseminating information on the topic, long before wikipedia.
I thought I'd put some boots on the ground for some more understanding & context.
Palestine may have been called Palestine, but the Philistines didn't establish that name, Arab tribalism eg Saud, Jordan, Persia, Babylonia did.
Phoenicians settled on this hill long before any of them, but names change when land is conquered.

Jews are creative enough to have established strength worldwide to reclaim the land, but that imo is all they want.
They'll just continue to exercise every breath in maintaining it, just as other countries do.


Strong post, thanks sparkuri amazing

Would absolutely love to hear more.

Its the last paragraph of your post is what I find most to be questioning; how far will they go to maintain it? how much power is necessary to wield to maintain it, how much of US policy/media etc has been hijacked to maintain it? If all they want is that land then OK go conquer it and be done with it. But if you have to manipulate so much of the rest of the world at great expense to maintain it then we have some concerns

I would be curious also how you are enjoying your trip, through the many lenses you've no doubt accumulated along your studies. What is the energy like there if I may ask such an esoteric question? Is it enjoyable from a vacation perspective? Or are you more enjoying on an intellectual/historical basis? Did you ever dip into Palestine/occupied territory? Or is that impossible/difficult for tourists?

Thanks again. Glad to see some people having the guts to chime in here, a very interesting topic imho rarely explored/discussed.

Even my man SRBrant and I are finding some common ground lol



Regarding how far will they go to maintain it(or have they gone), I'd say all the way.
Honestly, I think America has already fallen, just being a matter of time due to lack of morality/culture.
So far as media/policy are hijacked, it just all looks like an early land grab of sorts to me so the depths of their influence remains to be seen, but currently it looks strong(I think Trump is actually a large part of that).
I think everyone here has a good grasp on their reach and influence in the last 70+ years, particularly.
I think they don't just conquer it because the facade of the UN is so strong in the minds of the peasants worldwide.
Virtue-signaling is at a worldwide high with the vacuum created by a declining, western, god-centered moral code, so actions to just annihilate them would be a death sentence/World War. I don't think in '67 they had the power to maintain a wipeout, but think their last chance was really the Iraq war(Storm & Shield), as the USSR had "fallen" and sentiment could've carried them after scud attacks and how ignorant/emotional the public is on the issue, along with relative enough trust in the media then. Now things are obviously different.
I also think Israel can't possibly just wipeout everyone as they're too interdependent on neighbors for daily life.
Trusted Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians keep the fabric of their society afloat during Shabbat.

I didn't enjoy my trip for personal reasons, but yes, it was intended to be a pilgrimage of sorts rather than vacation.
As far as vacation, Tel Aviv is a growing tourist hotspot, but circumnavigating Israel as a whole is just too arduous to enjoy imo, unless you're wealthy or well-connected.
It can be painstaking to arrange safe passage between zones.
Speaking of zones, yes, I spent time in the West Bank, not a place I'd recommend. It's kinda like Juarez in that way.
If you're Israeli or American without being a benefit, walking out in the open is gambling with your life.
The tension is high in all "A" zones. To quote Deckard, "you're either a benefit or a hazard".

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Postby penxv » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:15 pm

I came across a book I'd never heard of today and I was like "damn, is that real?"

Martin Luther (of protestant reformation fame) goes in hard on the Js.
https://www.prchiz.pl/pliki/Luther_On_Jews.pdf

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Postby penxv » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:55 pm

He really digs at their emphasis on lineage to their patriarchs. Says that's the root cause of their censure by the prophets.

"In this boast of nobility they glory as much as they do in their physical birth. Consequently
I believe that if Moses himself would appear together with Elijah and their Messiah and would
try to deprive them of this boast or forbid such prayers and doctrine, they would probably
consider all three of them to be the three worst devils in hell, and they would be at a loss to know
how to curse and damn them adequately, to say nothing of believing them. For they have decided
among themselves that Moses, together with Elijah and the Messiah, should endorse
circumcision, yes, rather that they should help to strengthen and praise such arrogance and pride
in circumcision, that these should, like themselves, look upon all Gentiles as awful filth and
stench because they are not circumcised. Moses, Elijah, and the Messiah must do an that they
prescribe, think, and wish. They insist that they are right, and if God himself were to do other
than they think, he would be in the wrong."

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Postby penxv » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:40 am

Damn...

"Their glosses remind me very much of an evil, stubborn shrew who clamorously
contradicts her husband and insists on having the last word although she knows she is in the
wrong."


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