Luciferian Doctrine in Modern Times

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Re: Luciferian Doctrine in Modern Times

Postby Masato » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:50 pm

OK back on this mofo if anyone is still interested

What would be a possible explanation for why the mythology has made such a clear distinction between Christ and Satan? Many stories and verses clearly as though they were 2, separate, and opposed.

Just noticed myself however using the word 'Satan', where the discussion was about Lucifer... I've heard many argue there is a difference between these terms (might be a good topic to discuss as well)

I have no doubt personally that the Vatican at least is way more Luciferian than Christian. I remember reading some frightening quotes from high clergy around the time of Vatican II about how 'Satan has entered the Vatican', etc. I don't think the catholic church was ever christian though to be honest

This stuff is interesting because even if you don't actually believe in such specific characters, it is a mythology that lives in like half the world's minds and subconscious. Joseph Campbell talks a lot about the power of myths even if they aren't literally true. This is not just wild speculation on divine forces, its a radical examination of our cultural unconscious paradigms, and direction of the world

Also I tend to believe a lot of the most powerful people on earth are Luciferians, some even Satanists so its like a 'know thy enemy' kinda thing

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Postby Redneck » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:41 pm

Satan and Lucifer are different, maybe like God and Jesus are different.

In the Cooper video he says "Lucifer, through his agent Satan" set Adam and Eve free from the Garden of Eden..

Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible, and some people argue that they are not exactly the same entity or definition.

Theosophists say there is no connection.

Considering the fact that Lucifer and Satan have come to be viewed as synonymous terms and names for the same entity, it is not too hard to see why our Christian friends have jumped to such a conclusion, seeing as the Theosophical magazine started in England in the late 1880s by HPB was titled “Lucifer” and that in her masterpiece work “The Secret Doctrine” she speaks of Lucifer in positive and glowing terms.

But there are several important points which need to be understood…

#1. Christianity does not have a monopoly on the term “Lucifer” nor on its definition. The Christian concept and definition of the term “Lucifer” is merely the latest in a long line of definitions and interpretations of this pre-Christian term.

#2. The word “Lucifer” occurs only once in the entire Bible. This is in Isaiah 14:12, which says: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” Those who read this verse in its actual context will clearly see that the sentence is applied specifically to a certain Babylonian king who was an enemy in war of the Israelites. The original Hebrew text uses the word הֵילֵל which literally means “bright star” or “shining one,” a term applied sarcastically or mockingly by the Israelites to this particular enemy of theirs. The translators of the King James Version of the Bible – one of the chief of whom was the well known Rosicrucian initiate Dr Robert Fludd, a fact which will no doubt shock and horrify many Christians – chose to translate this word with the Latin word “Lucifer.”

#3. “Lucifer” literally means Lightbringer, Lightbearer, Bringer of Dawn, Shining One, or Morning Star. The word has no other meaning. Historically and astronomically, the term “Morning Star” has always been applied to the planet Venus.

#4. Since the only occurrence of the word “Lucifer” in the Bible is that one verse in Isaiah, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible which says that Lucifer is Satan or the devil. It was Pope Gregory the Great (540-604 AD) who was the first person to apply that passage of scripture to Satan and thus to equate Lucifer with Satan. But even then this notion didn’t catch on in a big way until the much more recent popularisation of John Milton’s “Paradise Lost” in which Lucifer is used as another name for Satan, the evil adversary of God. Also, such luminaries of the Christian world as Martin Luther and John Calvin considered it “a gross error” to apply Isaiah 14:12 to the devil, “for the context plainly shows these statements must be understood in reference to the king of the Babylonians.”

#5. Thus the Christians who claim that Lucifer is the devil actually have no Biblical basis or authority for such a belief. Though they may claim to be “Bible believing Christians” whose faith is built solely on “the Word of God” they are actually followers – in this and many other respects – of Christian religious tradition and not of the Christian Bible. Or have they quietly conferred divine infallibility upon the Pope and Milton without informing the rest of the world?

#6. H.P. Blavatsky was never at any point in her life a Christian, gave no credence to Christian theology and did not believe in any type of personal or anthropomorphic God nor in any type of personal or anthropomorphic devil. She believed and taught that there is but ONE Infinite Divine Life which is everything and in everything and that It has no adversary or enemy, since there is nothing but That – the boundless, impersonal, omnipresent Principle of Absolute Existence Itself. She was against the notion of worshipping or praying to anyone or anything. She taught that evil is really imperfection, which is the automatic and inevitable byproduct of the existence of matter.

. . . We can sum up by saying that what H.P. Blavatsky has to say about Lucifer is entirely esoteric, symbolical, and philosophical. Those four excerpts quoted above [Note: see the article for these] are virtually the only specific statements and explanations she ever made about Lucifer, although fanatical Christians and half-crazed conspiracy theorists like to give the impression that she spent almost all her time ranting and raving about Lucifer, which is simply not true. ... -say-that/

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Postby Masato » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:28 pm

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