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Largest Early World Map, Assembled 4 1st time

Postby Masato » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:31 am

very cool:

Explore the Largest Known Early Map of the World, Assembled for the First Time

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https://hyperallergic.com/420690/urbano ... ampaign=sw

A 60 sheet manuscript world map made in 1587 by Urbano Monte has been acquired by the David Rumsey Map Center at Stanford Libraries, which scanned the sheets, then digitally stitched them together.

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10-foot diameter planisphere digitally assembled from Urbano Monte’s 60 sheet Gores with additional sheets for the corners (all images courtesy David Rumsey Map Collection)

Urbano Monte, born in 1544, was a wealthy scholar from Milan who dedicated much of his later life to studying the earth’s geographies. In addition to publishing a voluminous treatise detailing our planet’s physical complexities, the nobleman also designed three planispheres that laid out the wonders of the world in rich, colorful illustrations. His first, completed in 1587, represents the largest known, early modern map of Earth, and includes scientific information such as regional climates and lengths of days. Spanning over nine feet in diameter, it is made up of 60 sheets that capture our continents and waters in stunning, handdrawn detail.

Monte had left a note in one section explaining that the sheets were to be arranged so that the map could be placed on a wooden panel and revolved around a central pivot. Long bound as an atlas, the 60 manuscripts have been assembled for the first time as Monte intended, into a massive plan. Recently, the David Rumsey Map Center at Stanford Libraries acquired and scanned the sheets, then digitally stitched them together. (Only two sets exist; the other is held at the Biblioteca del Seminario Arcivescovile di Milano.) The team created a simulation of a revolving map, and individual reproductions of the sheets are all available to browse online.


As the elaborate, resulting assemblage shows, Monte settled on an unusual solution to the problem of depicting a globe on a flat surface: although designed after the introduction of the Mercator projection — the presentation most commonly used today — the nobleman elected for a polar azimuthal projection, which situates the North Pole at the center, with all other land masses radiating around it. The same projection is found on the logo of the United Nations.

Monte’s map stands out for this uncommon choice of perspective, but like many Renaissance-era maps, it is eye-catching for its illustrations that fill nearly every blank space. The relationship between land masses and waters is fairly accurate, considering the map’s time period, but its maker also includes many fantastical beasts that frolic on land and sea, from reptilian beasts to griffins to unicorns. Other pictures are more faithful to reality, such as portraits of Monte himself and of King Philip II of Spain — the latter of which reminds of the Spanish empire’s power during that time.

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Detail of Tavola XXIII showing Venezuela and Guyana

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Monte’s Planisphere, georeferenced and re-projected in Plate Caree or Geographic

Rumsey emphasizes how Monte’s document merges science, art, and history, writing, “The north polar projection of his planisphere uses the advanced scientific ideas of his time; the artistry in drawing and decorating the map embodies design at the highest level; and the view of the world then gives us a deep historical resource with the listing of places, the shape of spaces, and the commentary interwoven into the map.”

Although fascinated with the world, Monte was a homebody of sorts. Rather than venturing on explorations to gather firsthand knowledge of distant lands, he turned to libraries and relied on published texts — largely contemporary sources — to compile research. His early planisphere is a document worth study in its own right. Now that this significant primary source is fully digitized and freely accessible, scholars have an opportunity to better understand this thrilling age of discovery through the mind of one savvy and creative individual.

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Detail of Tavola XIIII and Tavola XV joined, showing Central Africa

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Diagram showing the eclipse of the sun, placed in the upper right corner of the composite map


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Diagram showing the length of days and nights during the year, not placed on the composite map

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Postby Edge Guerrero » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:40 pm

- Can you imagine the size of the table of the library that they used to read that map?



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Postby Vutulaki » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:55 am

Not bad considering Wiliem Jansz only discovered Australia in 1610, is this a fake or did he wing Australia?

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Postby Alfredo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:47 am

Vutulaki wrote:Not bad considering Wiliem Jansz only discovered Australia in 1610, is this a fake or did he wing Australia?

We know nothing about History. Historians can't even agree on events happening in our grandparents generations.
And events that don't fit the current narrative are swept under the rug.
There's been theories and discoveries that suggest ancient people like the Phoenicians regularly traveled to Australia.

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Postby Vutulaki » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:21 am

Alfredo wrote:We know nothing about History. Historians can't even agree on events happening in our grandparents generations.
And events that don't fit the current narrative are swept under the rug.


Thats all true in some circumstances.


Alfredo wrote:There's been theories and discoveries that suggest ancient people like the Phoenicians regularly traveled to Australia.



LOL yeah which was put to rest before I finished HS (a long time ago).

"It has been reported in the media that Mr Val Osborn, a local from Freshwater Point near Sarina on the North Queensland coast, has discovered a 3,000 year old Phoenician harbour and mine, a discovery set to change Australian, if not world, history. It is described by Osborn as an 800 metre long harbour wall, with boulders of polished granite set in iron slag cement and copper slags. He says it's a monstrous thing you could put "3,200 foot ships end to end isn there. It's as calm as a milk pond and beautifully engineered." Osborne also claims to have seen a Phoenician bell temple as well as a cemetery. Dr Bryce Barker, an archaeologist and specialist in prehistoric Aboriginal archaeology, is alarmed at these reports. From his own research on the Central Queensland Coast and from discussions with his colleagues, Dr Barker says this is definitely not a Phoenician ruin, and there are no iron or copper slags which are 3,000 years old. The reported 800 metre wall is actually a natural rock wall and , in fact, aboriginal fish traps are part of these stone rock formations. The only substantial evidence which exists on the entire north coast of Queensland is that of a strong Aboriginal cultural heritage."

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/phoenicians-in-queensland/3469860

Ole Mal Osborn is full of shit just like everyone from that bankrupt shit hole state haha

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Postby Alfredo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:45 am

Vutulaki wrote:
Alfredo wrote:We know nothing about History. Historians can't even agree on events happening in our grandparents generations.
And events that don't fit the current narrative are swept under the rug.


Thats all true in some circumstances.


Alfredo wrote:There's been theories and discoveries that suggest ancient people like the Phoenicians regularly traveled to Australia.



LOL yeah which was put to rest before I finished HS (a long time ago).

"It has been reported in the media that Mr Val Osborn, a local from Freshwater Point near Sarina on the North Queensland coast, has discovered a 3,000 year old Phoenician harbour and mine, a discovery set to change Australian, if not world, history. It is described by Osborn as an 800 metre long harbour wall, with boulders of polished granite set in iron slag cement and copper slags. He says it's a monstrous thing you could put "3,200 foot ships end to end isn there. It's as calm as a milk pond and beautifully engineered." Osborne also claims to have seen a Phoenician bell temple as well as a cemetery. Dr Bryce Barker, an archaeologist and specialist in prehistoric Aboriginal archaeology, is alarmed at these reports. From his own research on the Central Queensland Coast and from discussions with his colleagues, Dr Barker says this is definitely not a Phoenician ruin, and there are no iron or copper slags which are 3,000 years old. The reported 800 metre wall is actually a natural rock wall and , in fact, aboriginal fish traps are part of these stone rock formations. The only substantial evidence which exists on the entire north coast of Queensland is that of a strong Aboriginal cultural heritage."

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/phoenicians-in-queensland/3469860

Ole Mal Osborn is full of shit just like everyone from that bankrupt shit hole state haha

Yes, and 6 million jews were gassed. That's been put to rest too. Doesn't make it accurate.
Especially when the 'expert' saying it's not true makes his living from studying that the first Australians were Abos and to acknowledge an earlier culture would put him out of a lot of grants.
That's a big mine near Sarina he's talking about, but there are also stories of Ancient pyramids near Cairns (and various others on the East coast I believe) and a treasure diver claimed he found an Phonecian boat on the NW coast.
I have no idea what's true or not. But what I do know is how very little we actually know.
And this very map with Australia on it is just one more piece to be swept under the rug.

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Postby Alfredo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:46 pm

I met Val Osborn a few years ago which got me into all this, he showed me around the Sarina site. He said he has had government officials come to his door threatening him, telling him to stop investigating this and demanding the various stones and artifacts he discovered. I think if he was just a crazy kook the government wouldn't bother. He also said they were speeding up putting a big coal port in there to destroy it all. Don't know if that went ahead.
Here's a bunch of stuff from him, apparently he found chariot axles there too (he didn't mention that one to me)
http://www.australianarchaeologicalanom ... osborn.htm

Here's another discovery of 1000 year old coins discovered in NT.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/ancient- ... 2juck.html

Here's an old controversial treasure hunter diver (Alan Robinson- involved in many discoveries) who claims to have discovered an ancient Phoenician ship off Derby,WA.
Never been re-discovered but Robinson who was a vocal activist of the treasure belonging to the finder, not the government was known to give false locations so he could continue to plunder the riches.
https://secretvisitors.wordpress.com/20 ... australia/

And there's heaps more random shit that doesn't fit the narrative of traditional Australian history (which is why we ignore it) ie;
http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/egyp ... npage.html
http://morningmail.org/history-told/
https://www.facebook.com/AlanRobinsonDiver/

Are they real or fraudulent? Who knows. Is someone making up stories and replicating pyramids all over olden day Australia? Doesn't really make sense, but maybe.
Anyway, kinda derailed the thread, my point was basically that Australia was most definitely discovered well before the Dutch such as the Chinese, Indonesian, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Being Italian, this guy probably got his intel from the two latter.

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Postby Vutulaki » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:31 am

Alfredo wrote:I met Val Osborn a few years ago which got me into all this, he showed me around the Sarina site. He said he has had government officials come to his door threatening him, telling him to stop investigating this and demanding the various stones and artifacts he discovered. I think if he was just a crazy kook the government wouldn't bother. He also said they were speeding up putting a big coal port in there to destroy it all. Don't know if that went ahead.
Here's a bunch of stuff from him, apparently he found chariot axles there too (he didn't mention that one to me)
http://www.australianarchaeologicalanom ... osborn.htm

Here's another discovery of 1000 year old coins discovered in NT.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/ancient- ... 2juck.html

Here's an old controversial treasure hunter diver (Alan Robinson- involved in many discoveries) who claims to have discovered an ancient Phoenician ship off Derby,WA.
Never been re-discovered but Robinson who was a vocal activist of the treasure belonging to the finder, not the government was known to give false locations so he could continue to plunder the riches.
https://secretvisitors.wordpress.com/20 ... australia/

And there's heaps more random shit that doesn't fit the narrative of traditional Australian history (which is why we ignore it) ie;
http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/egyp ... npage.html
http://morningmail.org/history-told/
https://www.facebook.com/AlanRobinsonDiver/

Are they real or fraudulent? Who knows. Is someone making up stories and replicating pyramids all over olden day Australia? Doesn't really make sense, but maybe.
Anyway, kinda derailed the thread, my point was basically that Australia was most definitely discovered well before the Dutch such as the Chinese, Indonesian, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Being Italian, this guy probably got his intel from the two latter.


If it werent for your links id say "hai EY!" lol

Anyway yes the Chinese did reach Australia but I was talking about Europeans. The chinese didnt and dont have it in them to tame a country like Australia so they just traded shells with the abos for sweet and sour goanna and went on their way.


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